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The Bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-15 10:11
Subject: Okay ...
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It's not just Scotland.

I see that BAA are suspending all flights out of Heathrow and Stansted.

(Looks out of window)

Is that just overcast, or is it volcanic dust?

Looking at the map, they appear to be following the precautionary principle, so we probably don't actually have dust over us right now, not down here, but they don't want to send planes up into something that might cause severe damage to turbojets. (Not since the scary time a 747 lost all 4 engines and nearly came down as a result.)

ETA: following crazyscot's link will bring you to this page of graphics file links, of which this one shows the latest forecast.

ETA: farewell, Denmark. They're closing their airspace at 1600Z.
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Autopope
User: autopope
Date: 2010-04-15 09:21 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Ah, joy.

I hope it clears before noon Monday, GMT -- that's when we're due to take off on a 777 from Narita to Paris CDG, en route for Edinburgh!
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-15 09:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Joy indeed.

It could be very interesting - if you look at the map on the BBC article, you can see that the main plume is heading along the north coast of Scandinavia. When we flew back from Narita to LHR, our flight path was pretty much along that densest bit.

I'm not sure if your outbound went along the same geodesic - perhaps the route from CDG is starting further enough south to path differently - but I certainly hope this clears before your return.
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User: silly_swordsman
Date: 2010-04-15 09:41 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Norway's airspace is closed now, as is the Swedish airspace north of Stockholm (they closed the airspace in the north of Sweden last night).
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-15 09:56 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Looking at the maps, I'd expect Finland to follow.

Totally on a different matter, are you still in ACCU, and if so, would you be happy to second my nomination for Secretary?

(I can give it up any time, honest! This is only the tenth year ...)
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User: silly_swordsman
Date: 2010-04-15 10:09 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yes, the renewal was the last receipt I sent in before I stopped being a contractor. In other words:

"As a fully paid-up member of ACCU, I nominate Alan Bellingham for the post of secretary."

That ok?
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-15 10:16 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Fine, and thanks
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Ross
User: crazyscot
Date: 2010-04-15 13:13 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
www.nats.co.uk says that "It is very unlikely that the situation over England will improve in the foreseeable future", without explaining what they mean by foreseeable. Good luck ...
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-15 13:27 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
That should count as a corporate suicide note. No aircraft flying, no needs for air traffic control, no point in their existence.

Or should we assume that they don't really mean the 'no flying ever again' implied by their wording?

I do wonder how long an eruption plume is likely to last - this could be interesting in a distinctly Chinese way. (Which reminds me, our Chinese colleague should be flying back from Shanghai this weekend.)
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Korenwolf
User: korenwolf
Date: 2010-04-15 15:23 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
The parental units should be flying back from the states this weekend as well.
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Ross
User: crazyscot
Date: 2010-04-15 16:38 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Eurocontrol, as reported by the beeb, are now reckoning on two more days of disruption, so it's touch and go for autopope ... For the time being we're on "zero flow" for IFR traffic across the entire UK airspace until at least 0600z tomorrow, with further announcements every six hours or so.
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-15 16:47 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Even if full capacity returns on Sunday morning, there'll be disruption for days afterwards as planes return from being in the wrong places, passengers contend for flights and people get bounced to later flights, etc.

With luck, a lot of the incoming long-distance flights can divert to airports just outside the zone, so that when flights over to here resume, they're coming from, say, Napoli rather than Narita.
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