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The Bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 16:03
Subject: On Eastercon guests
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I find it interesting that a new impetus seems to be developing of having Eastercon guests who aren't immediately obvious SF&F connected.

In 2008, it was Mitch Benn.

Next year, it appears that not only we be getting Mitch again (and he's someone we'll go over to Norwich to pay to see), but also Ben Goldacre. Hooray.

It's not that people from outside both SF and fandom haven't been invited before, but I think we're beginning to see a new impetus to look outward more than has been common in the recent era.

(It'd be lovely to see Dara O'Briain coming along one day. Ah, I can dream.)

ETA: I should point out that the convention is at Heathrow - we drove over to Norwich just to go to one of Mitch's gigs, about three hours round trip driving.
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Kelvix
User: kelvix
Date: 2009-05-29 11:11 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
"and he's someone we'll go over to Norwich to pay to see"

Is that just a long way for you, or is that where it's based?

wondering whether a visit to the UK might be a good plan... weblinky?
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 11:21 (UTC)
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We'd wanted to see Mitch in Cambridge, but weren't going to be available when he was there. So looking round the rest of his itinery, Norwich seemed good. Well, it's East Anglia, innit?

I tend to forget how far it actually is.
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Kelvix
User: kelvix
Date: 2009-05-29 11:34 (UTC)
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Norwich is traditionally on the road to nowhere...

I think the locals like it like that: certainly road transport links to Norwich have not significantly improved in the last three decades.
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 11:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I dunno - there's some dual carriageway road now leading up from the A14 that didn't used to be there.

But on the whole, yes, the rest of the country is a little cut off from it.
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The Magician
User: the_magician
Date: 2009-05-29 11:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
http://www.odyssey2010.org should do!

British National Science Fiction conention (aka Eastercon) is at a hotel near Heathrow (far west Londdon) next Easter.

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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 11:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yep - as also in my edit now.
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ms_cataclysm
User: ms_cataclysm
Date: 2009-05-29 11:17 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Norwich? but isn't con in Heathrow?
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 11:20 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Err yes - see edit.
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 11:31 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I was very deeply amused at the number of people who tried to get into the room he was playing in. When we went over to Norwich, to a gig in one of the theatres there, he got maybe half that number.

Oh, I was also amused by the presence of a certain 12 year old - in the front row - while Mitch was singing 'Crap Shag' and other interesting lyrics. Happily, said youngster is pretty trustworthy, being of the McKenna family.
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Kelvix
User: kelvix
Date: 2009-05-29 11:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I like her books as well and have found her on the membership list. And Iain M B... another favourite.

As always, it's childcare and money that are the significant features of our planning though, so I may wist from afar.
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 11:41 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
It should be quite a gathering, though I can appreciate that with you the wrong side of the North Sea, logistics will be trickier.
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The Magician
User: the_magician
Date: 2009-05-29 11:44 (UTC)
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Eastercons have had musical guests before, from the guitarist and the harpist at the Liverpool Eastercons to the Biker Morris side at Confabulation and the orchestra at LX.

So Mitch was less of a guest and more of a performance artist in the grand tradition of Eastercons.

Ben Goldacre on the other hand is in the tradition of the Sound and Light displays in Glasgow or perhaps more along the lines of the Tesla Coil at Blackpool. External expert enticed to attend, either for expenses or a small fee.

I think the distinction this time is that Ben appears to be being listed as a "guest" (though probably not a GoH ...)
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 12:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yes, there have been external speakers before - the late Salthouse being a fine example - but Goldacre strikes me as being in a new class. Those others you mention are very much the type of person you think of when you go 'Science' as in 'Science Museum' or the like. Goldacre is different, being primarily known in his role as a journalist and campaigner (even if actually a qualified doctor as well).

The other interesting thing is that both Benn and Goldacre have a weekly spot on the edges of the news media: Benn on The Now Show, Goldacre in The Guardian.
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surliminal
User: surliminal
Date: 2009-05-29 13:29 (UTC)
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It is good. I remember desperately pleading for the first Glasgow Worldcon to get Los Bros hernandez to strange looks - and they were comics artists f'r heavens sake.
I keep saying it's the Twitter effect!!
Other people I;d like to see - WRITERS of TV and FILM - we get writers of books and stars from TV/film, never t'other way round..
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surliminal
User: surliminal
Date: 2009-05-29 13:31 (UTC)
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viz actually, following Twitter and fannish likes - Charlie Brooker - total fan boy and wrote about zombies. What more do you want?
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2009-05-29 13:38 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
You mean, like the ubiquitous Paul Cornell?

Is fandom ready for another one of him?

And even those of us who don't twit would go for yon Charlie Brooker.
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surliminal
User: surliminal
Date: 2009-05-29 15:17 (UTC)
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Well exactly. There Need Not Be Only One!
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Kimberley Verburg: black fish
User: sierra_le_oli
Date: 2009-05-29 15:33 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:black fish
Thanks for the heads up, have just booked supporting memberships for self and Wingnut. Will upgrade once we know where we are next year.
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