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The Bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-08 12:00
Subject: I think that's all travel booked for the moment
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Right. Travel sorted.

So that's:
  • One pair of flights from Stansted to Basel (CR - debit card - payment complete).
  • One pair of TGV seats from Sierre to Paris. Arriving by post. (AB - credit card next month)
  • One pair of Eurostar seats from Paris to Waterloo. Collect at Gare du Nord. (AB - credit card next month)
  • One Ferry from Holyhead to Dun Laoghaire. e-ticket. (AB - debit card - payment complete)
  • One Ferry from Dun Laoghaire to Holyhead. e-ticket. (AB - debit card - payment complete)
  • One pair of flights from Heathrow to Narita. e-ticket. (AB - credit card - payment complete)
  • One pair of flights from Narita to Heathrow. e-ticket. (AB - credit card - payment complete)
Yet to do:
  • Japan Rail card (before flying to Narita)
  • Worldwide travel insurance policy (before departing to Basel)
  • Ensure car has breakdown cover for Ireland (unlike last time)(before leaving for P-Con)
  • Decide on Octocon travel
To buy on the relevant day:
  • One pair of rail tickets, Royston to Stansted.
  • One pair of rail tickets, Basel to Leukerbad.
  • One pair of rail tickets, Leukerbad to Sierre.
  • One pair of rail tickets, Paris Lyon to Paris de L'Est.
  • One pair of rail tickets, Waterloo to Royston.
As for hotels:

Yet to book:
  • Crown Plaza,Chester (Eastercon)(booking not yet open)
  • Royal Park Hotel, Yokohama (three nights - we want to stay somewhere so high no other building is anywhere near the same height)
  • Miscellaneous others in Japan
  • Whatever for Octocon
Booked:
  • Swissotel Basel (two nights, Fasnacht)
  • Lindner Hotel, Leukerbad (three nights, post Fasnacht) (fax sent)
  • Park Inn Hotel, Dublin (two nights, P-Con)(formerly Chief O'Neill's, very nice inside)
  • Grand Inter-Continental Hotel, Yokohama (four nights)(Worldcon Convention hotel)
Edit: 2007/01/09 - Swissotel and Park Inn added
Edit: 2007/01/10 - Payment status added
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Natural20
User: natural20
Date: 2007-01-08 12:10 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
So you'll be just across the river for P-Con? Excellent. I presume you're ferrying on the Friday? When will you be arriving in?
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-08 12:27 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
In Dublin - Saturday morning, after staying overnight down in Co. Wicklow.
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Mrs Cosmopilite
User: mrscosmopilite
Date: 2007-01-08 12:24 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I must be having a bad day- I was trying to make them all into one marvellous inerconnected trip!
The reality struck and I realised...it sort of is, with regular stopovers in Royston- doh!
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-08 12:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Life is a journey!

In this case, the itinerary is for the rest of my holiday year, which expires (unlike me, I trust) at the end of this coming October.
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Colette
User: bellinghwoman
Date: 2007-01-08 12:40 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Park Inn Hotel, Dublin (two nights, P-Con)(formerly Chief O'Neill's, very nice inside)

Booked and paid for yesterday while you were manfully tussling with Eurostar
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-08 12:52 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Ah, fine. Updated list.
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Doing simply dreadful things too
User: clanwilliam
Date: 2007-01-08 13:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
For us:

To book:
Pembroke/Rosslare ferry.
One night in Wexford.
Dublin/Holyhead ferry.
P-Con membership.

Everything else sorted.
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-08 14:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Ah, we're staying the one night in Wicklow, but since that's not something we'll specifically be paying for (we will be providing a lift up to Dublin for our hosts), it's not one of the budget considerations.

Would I be correct in assuming that you hope to be with friends down in Wexford, or are you actually renting a room?
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Doing simply dreadful things too
User: clanwilliam
Date: 2007-01-08 14:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
We're renting a room (I don't have any friends in Wexford that I can just phone and ask for crash space), but that's more than a week before P-Con - we're going to K2 in Killarney first and then going to stay in Carlow a few nights before going on to Dublin. No doubt, if they're around, we shall be seeing your kind hosts at some point in that week.

But we're staying in Dublin from the Friday night onwards and possibly stopping off at my sister's the night before that, depending on what we do.

Unless I decide that doing well over 1000 miles in about 10 days is fine yet again and we bugger off to Clifden for a night.
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-08 14:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Since last week, I drove 732 miles in ... under 30 hours, I'd say that 100 miles a day isn't a real problem.

But then, I used to commute that each day.

Give my love to Killarney. And my regards to the Clan Chiefs in Carlow.
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Doing simply dreadful things too
User: clanwilliam
Date: 2007-01-08 15:11 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
It's the way it comes in lumps when you have to be at certain places by certain times that wipes me out. And oddly enough, it's more tiring for me when I have a passenger - especially a non-driving passenger.
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Johanna
User: mrs_warwick
Date: 2007-01-10 00:02 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Whereabouts in Japan will you be visiting?
When we went to Kyoto, we stayed in a lovely little place called 'The Three Sisters' which was beautiful. Photos of our suite can be seen here:
http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/gallery2/v/2002/02oct/ (3srm1 - 8)
It is not the most centrally located ryokan, it was about 20 minutes on the bus from Kyoto station, then a bit of a walk from the bus-stop. It was also the most expensive place we stayed in but we were in a suite with a private Western style bathroom. Not all the rooms had en-suite facilties. The doors were also locked at 11pm (I remember that the more traditional the hotel, the more likely it was to have a curfew!)
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-10 01:10 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
OK, our plans are as follows:

Fly out Saturday, arriving Sunday, and zonking out somewhere (anywhere) till Monday morning.

Spend Mon-Thu in the general Kento plain area. Since that includes Yokohama, the Royal Park (being the tallest building in Japan) seems like an interesting idea.

We're then booked in the Con hotel (a few blocks away) for the Thu-Mon.

We then have a week free. We're free for that time, but we do probably want to do a fair bit of travelling. A Shinkansen will definitely factor itself in there - since we'll be doing our first TGV in a couple of months, a comparison with a bullet train would be interesting.

Something not entirely western would definitely be good - we'll have had enough of that in the first week, in Greater Tokyo.

Out of curiosity, how much were the rooms you were staying costing, and how long ago?
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Johanna
User: mrs_warwick
Date: 2007-01-10 21:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
We went to Japan in October 2002. At the time 1000 yen was very roughly 5ukp.
We took the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Kyoto, it took 2 hours 20 min and cost 28000 yen. Paul tells me that we were on the most up-to-date version. I do remember that the train only stops for about 1 minute at each station, so you had to be quick!

The Three Sisters was 44,000 yen for 2 nights, roughly 220ukp. According to my diary, if we wanted an evening meal we had to order it before 5pm. I have vague recollections of some breakfast restrictions but they couldn't have been too awful because I haven't noted it in my diary.



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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2007-01-10 22:02 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Hmm, now about 230 yen to the pound, so that Y1000 is approximately £4.30. 44,000 for 2 nights is pretty reasonable by our standards. (The Swissotel is going to be ~CHF600 for 2 nights, and 1 CHF is roughly 100 yen at the moment. Swiss hotels, when you're going for the full luxury end, aren't cheap!)

Did you have a Japan Rail card?
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Johanna
User: mrs_warwick
Date: 2007-01-10 22:45 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
We didn't. I can't remember now why not. It may have been that we just didn't get around to buying them, or that we weren't doing enough major rail travel to warrent it.

Japan was never on my list of places I 'must' visit, but one of my sisters lived there for 3 years, so we were partly visiting her, partly 'sightseeing'. It was a fantastic trip, so different. I just wish we could have gone for longer (we had 17 days) although after a while all the temples start to blur into one!
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