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The Bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-20 22:45
Subject: On wines
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I am amused.

In Tesco currently, there are (among a large number of other ones) Ogio wines from Puglia going at a reduced price.

One of them is a Primitivo Red.
And one of them is a Zinfandel Rosé.

Hmmm.
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Laura Anne Gilman: wine.  dude.
User: suricattus
Date: 2010-04-20 21:59 (UTC)
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Keyword:wine. dude.
*facepalms, then slaps someone else, Just Because*
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-21 07:57 (UTC)
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Oh what a cute icon!
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oldbloke
User: oldbloke
Date: 2010-04-20 22:02 (UTC)
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Hmm well, Primitivo is related to Zinfandel, and the Yanks are investing in Puglia. Maybe somebody thought it was a good idea. You try a bottle and let me know.

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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-21 07:55 (UTC)
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I suspect they're the very same vines.

I suspect that because Red Primitivo has been known for generations, they're perfectly happy selling it as that, but that when they decided to do a rosé, it was pretty much an unknown for their customers. However, as Zinfandel rosé, it is extremely popular in some parts of the world. So they call it Zinfandel instead, just to avoid confusion.

But it is a bit like a German selling selling both a Pinot Noir fizz and a red Spatburgunder wine.
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Laura Anne Gilman: wine.  dude.
User: suricattus
Date: 2010-04-21 11:38 (UTC)
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Keyword:wine. dude.
They were proven, a bit back, to be 'cousins' of the same, hrm, Croation-originated, I think, vine. Primitivo in Italy, Zinfandel varietal in North America.

Both a deep red, in their original form. Zinfandel Rose is also known as "White Zinfandel in the States, and is considered a gateway drug (it's sweet, without much in the way of (IMO) real fruit).

/neep

(the wine icon came from my need for something to encompass the wine-neep I tend to do. Lifted the original image from a particular winery's site.. closer observation will reveal who. *grin*)

Edited at 2010-04-21 11:39 am (UTC)
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-21 11:58 (UTC)
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I suspect the grape you're thinking of is Crljenak Kaštelanski.

Assuming the Wikipedia article is accurate, then the EU recognises both grapes as being the same, and a maker is permitted to produce varietal wines named both Primitivo and Zinfandel off of the same vines.

I am deeply amused to find one actually doing just that.
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Sarcasticia Nitpickerson
User: tisiphone
Date: 2010-04-20 22:05 (UTC)
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Wut?
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The Bellinghman
User: bellinghman
Date: 2010-04-21 07:56 (UTC)
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Yep.

Now it's barely possible those wines are coming off different vines, that they imported some American vines just for the rosé, but I do doubt it.
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